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'''NChick:''' Key word, 'most' - a superior film, remembered less fondly than Independence Day? I've thought us up some reasons. Let us list them.
 
'''NChick:''' Key word, 'most' - a superior film, remembered less fondly than Independence Day? I've thought us up some reasons. Let us list them.
   
'''Title Card:''' 1. War of the Worlds had a really hard act to follow. (called 'Independence Day')
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'''Title Card:''' ''1. War of the Worlds had a really hard act to follow. (called 'Independence Day')''
   
 
'''NChick:''' War of the Worlds is, in many ways, a response to Independence Day.
 
'''NChick:''' War of the Worlds is, in many ways, a response to Independence Day.
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'''NChick (VO): '''Less so.
 
'''NChick (VO): '''Less so.
   
NChick: Let's talk a little bit about the design of aliens in Hollywood movies. They tend to be a bit samey, don't you think?
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'''NChick:''' Let's talk a little bit about the design of aliens in Hollywood movies. They tend to be a bit samey, don't you think?
   
(artwork of typical 'gray' aliens)
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''(artwork of typical 'gray' aliens)''
   
NChick (VO): It would seem that somehow our culture has more or less agreed on what aliens look like...
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'''NChick (VO):''' It would seem that somehow our culture has more or less agreed on what aliens look like...
   
NChick: And this is based completely on physical traits that are signifiers to humans.
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'''NChick:''' And this is based completely on physical traits that are signifiers to humans.
   
(side by side comparisons of WOTW alien with Independence Day alien)
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''(side by side comparisons of WOTW alien with Independence Day alien)''
   
NChick (VO): Big pupil-free eyes denote mysterious, big head denotes intelligence, sallow inhuman-coloured skin that is vaguely reptilian denotes foreignness...
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'''NChick (VO):''' Big pupil-free eyes denote mysterious, big head denotes intelligence, sallow inhuman-coloured skin that is vaguely reptilian denotes foreignness...
   
NChick: It has to tread a line between bestial and intelligent-looking so by the 1980s we more or less figured out.
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'''NChick:''' It has to tread a line between bestial and intelligent-looking so by the 1980s we more or less figured out.
   
(artwork and costumes based on gray aliens)
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''(artwork and costumes based on gray aliens)''
   
NChick (VO): We're onto you, aliens.
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'''NChick (VO):''' We're onto you, aliens.
   
NChick: So, in War of the Worlds, they start with....
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'''NChick:''' So, in War of the Worlds, they start with....
   
(concept art of the WOTW aliens)
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''(concept art of the WOTW aliens)''
   
NChick (VO): ....this really genuinely alien body structures that echos the tripods themselves.
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'''NChick (VO):''' ....this really genuinely alien body structures that echos the tripods themselves.
   
NChick: Which is interesting but what do they put on top of it...
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'''NChick:''' Which is interesting but what do they put on top of it...
   
(full 3D model of the WOTW alien, and close-up of the Independence Day alien)
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''(full 3D model of the WOTW alien, and close-up of the Independence Day alien)''
   
NChick (VO): But a really familiar looking head ''and where have we seen this before, hmmm?!''
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'''NChick (VO):''' But a really familiar looking head ''and where have we seen this before, hmmm?!''
   
NChick:The only appreciable difference in the design is the fact that the War of the Worlds aliens had mouths.
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'''NChick:''' The only appreciable difference in the design is the fact that the War of the Worlds aliens had mouths.
   
(aliens prowling in the basement)
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''(aliens prowling in the basement)''
   
NChick (VO): So they can go "rarrr!"
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'''NChick (VO):''' So they can go "rarrr!"
   
WOTW Alien: (snarls at its fellow)
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'''WOTW Alien:''' (snarls at its fellow)
   
NChick: This is not to imply that the Independence Day aliens are the most original thing ever. Again, they're pretty heavily patterned off the Roswell aliens, but then I guess Roland's like:
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'''NChick:''' This is not to imply that the Independence Day aliens are the most original thing ever. Again, they're pretty heavily patterned off the Roswell aliens, but then I guess Roland's like:
   
(pictures of Roland Emmerich, a Xenomorph and the ID4 alien)
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''(pictures of Roland Emmerich, a Xenomorph and the ID4 alien)''
   
NChick (VO, in faux-German accent): You know how the Giger took the eyes from the Alien, and it had no eyes, and that made him scary? Let's take the mouth. So instead of no eyes, they have no mouth. And it is scary.
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'''NChick (VO, in faux-German accent):''' You know how the Giger took the eyes from the Alien, and it had no eyes, and that made him scary? Let's take the mouth. So instead of no eyes, they have no mouth. And it is scary.
   
(WOTW aliens investigating junk in the basement and ID4 alien writhing)
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''(WOTW aliens investigating junk in the basement and ID4 alien writhing)''
   
NChick (VO): And so the aliens in War of the Worlds end up looking nigh-freaking-identical to the ones in Independence Day.
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'''NChick (VO):''' And so the aliens in War of the Worlds end up looking nigh-freaking-identical to the ones in Independence Day.
   
NChick: But here's the thing. In Independence Day, they had an in-universe reason to look the way they did....
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'''NChick:''' But here's the thing. In Independence Day, they had an in-universe reason to look the way they did....
   
(preserved aliens in cryo tubes and front page of Roswell Daily Record reporting flying saucer capture)
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''(preserved aliens in cryo tubes and front page of Roswell Daily Record reporting flying saucer capture)''
   
NChick (VO): ...like our pre-conceived alien idea, because the whole scenario is based on conspiracy theory Americana...
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'''NChick (VO):''' ...like our pre-conceived alien idea, because the whole scenario is based on conspiracy theory Americana...
   
NChick: And the idea that the Roswell aliens were real. We already know what those guys look like! So in War of the Worlds, there is no in-universe reason for them to look the way they do, only the real-world context of living in the shadow of Independence Day.
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'''NChick:''' And the idea that the Roswell aliens were real. We already know what those guys look like! So in War of the Worlds, there is no in-universe reason for them to look the way they do, only the real-world context of living in the shadow of Independence Day.
   
(footage of WOTW and District 9)
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''(footage of WOTW and District 9)''
   
NChick (VO): In fairness the aliens also show up a little too late for them to be anything unfamiliar. Compare this to the relatively weird designs of District 9. The audience is freaking inundated with images of them so you're basically forced to accept them as characters by the end of act 1. Here they don't show up until the beginning of act 3, so they pretty much have to look like our pre-conceived idea of an alien. But after an hour of the sheer unadulterated awesome that is the tripods, they were bound to be disappointing no matter what they looked like.
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'''NChick (VO):''' In fairness the aliens also show up a little too late for them to be anything unfamiliar. Compare this to the relatively weird designs of District 9. The audience is freaking inundated with images of them so you're basically forced to accept them as characters by the end of act 1. Here they don't show up until the beginning of act 3, so they pretty much have to look like our pre-conceived idea of an alien. But after an hour of the sheer unadulterated awesome that is the tripods, they were bound to be disappointing no matter what they looked like.
   
NChick: I'd personally rather ''not'' have seen them.
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'''NChick:''' I'd personally rather ''not'' have seen them.
   
(Footage of Independence Day and WOTW)
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''(Footage of Independence Day and WOTW)''
   
NChick (VO): Maybe, like, y'know, a hand at the end and that's it, but saw 'em in Independence Day, so guess we'd better do it here too.
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'''NChick (VO):''' Maybe, like, y'know, a hand at the end and that's it, but saw 'em in Independence Day, so guess we'd better do it here too.
   
WOTW Alien: (snarl)
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'''WOTW Alien:''' (snarl)
   
Title Card: 2. 1996 > 2005
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'''Title Card:''' ''2. 1996 > 2005''
   
NChick: (Alanis Morissette's "Ironic" plays in the background) So, this thing going on, you know, with like, the Buzzfeeds of the world, it's all like "weren't the 90s awesome?" and people kinda shaking their heads and saying, "oh, you kids, everyone feels that way about the decade they grew up in..." and, yeah well, and that is true but here's a thing: The 90s were awesome.
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'''NChick:''' ''(Alanis Morissette's "Ironic" plays in the background)'' So, this thing going on, you know, with like, the Buzzfeeds of the world, it's all like "weren't the 90s awesome?" and people kinda shaking their heads and saying, "oh, you kids, everyone feels that way about the decade they grew up in..." and, yeah well, and that is true but here's a thing: The 90s were awesome.
   
(footage of the fall of the Berlin wall, Bill Clinton)
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''(footage of the fall of the Berlin wall, Bill Clinton)''
   
NChick (VO): I was super-young when it happened but, believe me, the fall of the Berlin wall took such a load off. Our young, hip saxophone-playing president wasn't so scandal-ridden yet, we had the best job market we'd seen in decades - (DVD cover for Reality Bites) fuck you, Reality Bites.
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'''NChick (VO):''' I was super-young when it happened but, believe me, the fall of the Berlin wall took such a load off. Our young, hip saxophone-playing president wasn't so scandal-ridden yet, we had the best job market we'd seen in decades - ''(DVD cover for Reality Bites)'' fuck you, Reality Bites.
   
NChick: And we, the American film-going public: We just didn't have much to worry about.
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'''NChick:''' And we, the American film-going public: We just didn't have much to worry about.
   
(Footage of Independence Day, Dante's Peak)
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''(Footage of Independence Day, Dante's Peak)''
   
NChick (VO): On some levels, Americans were bored and disconnected from any kind of societal anxiety and, film's a great outlet to get some quick, easy thrills and enjoy some blameless conflict. [[The Dark Age of Film|Even relatively wheezing little farts of disaster movies were big business in the 90s.]] (Screen cap of Dante Peak's budget and box office) I am genuinely bewildered by how much Dante's Peak made.
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'''NChick (VO):''' On some levels, Americans were bored and disconnected from any kind of societal anxiety and, film's a great outlet to get some quick, easy thrills and enjoy some blameless conflict. [[The Dark Age of Film|Even relatively wheezing little farts of disaster movies were big business in the 90s.]] ''(Screen cap of Dante Peak's budget and box office)'' I am genuinely bewildered by how much Dante's Peak made.
   
NChick: (The music changes to The Black Eyed Peas' "My Humps") 2005, conversely, sucked. Especially if you were an American and double especially if you weren't.
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'''NChick:''' ''(The music changes to The Black Eyed Peas' "My Humps")'' 2005, conversely, sucked. Especially if you were an American and double especially if you weren't.
   
(Footage of army action and The Black Eyed Peas' video for "My Humps")
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''(Footage of army action and The Black Eyed Peas' video for "My Humps")''
   
NChick (VO): The country was finally coming around to feeling really stupid about, the whole invading Iraq thing, our pop charts were dominated by pain....
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'''NChick (VO):''' The country was finally coming around to feeling really stupid about, the whole invading Iraq thing, our pop charts were dominated by pain....
   
Fergie: My hump, my hump, my hump
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'''Fergie:''' My hump, my hump, my hump
   
NChick (VO): ....and suffering. <span>(Footage of Hurricane Katrina) </span>That was the year Katrina happened. (Poster for Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith) And also this.
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'''NChick (VO):''' ....and suffering. <span>(Footage of Hurricane Katrina) </span>That was the year Katrina happened. (Poster for Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith) And also this.
   
NChick: It was also the year of this...
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'''NChick:''' It was also the year of this...
   
<span>(Footage of Tom Cruise jumping on Oprah's couch) </span>
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<span>''(Footage of Tom Cruise jumping on Oprah's couch)'' </span>
   
NChick: Which, is relevant, but we'll get to that later.
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'''NChick:''' Which, is relevant, but we'll get to that later.
   
NChick: And no, the economy had not yet crashed, but, it was still, an uneasy time.
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'''NChick:''' And no, the economy had not yet crashed, but, it was still, an uneasy time.
   
Fergie: Say I'm really sexy, the boys they wanna sex me...
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'''Fergie:''' Say I'm really sexy, the boys they wanna sex me...
   
NChick: ...2005 sucked.{{NChscripts}}
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'''NChick:''' ...2005 sucked.{{NChscripts}}
 
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Independence Day vs. War of the Worlds Part 1

Independence Day vs. War of the Worlds Pt. 1

Released
April 10th 2014
Running time
18:08
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NChick: Alien invasion movies.

(cut to clips from Invasion of the Body Snatchers and Attack The Block)

NChick: They just never go away!

(Clips from Signs and Skyline)

(Clips from Transformers: Dark of the Moon, Independence Day, The Host and Skyline)

NChick (VO): Low budget, high budget, success, epic-est of failures, you name it, this is a premise that does not look to ever be going away.

NChick: Why is that? Well, as a concept, 'alien' is a super-broad one. Aliens have a wider embodiment of our hopes, our fears, our self-defined relationship to the other than any other paranormal, magical, or sci-fi concept. In short, aliens have a lot of versatility just as a basic premise.

(clips from Signs and Independence Day)

NChick (VO): But big-budget Hollywood invasion movies, less so.

NChick: Because they have to have a happy ending. It's in the rules.

(Clips from War of the Worlds, Battleship, Transformers: Dark of the Moon and Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen)

NChick (VO): And really huge giant big-budget blockbuster alien invasion movies, there are really only a handful of those. Most recently, you have Battleship and the Transformers franchise, though I'm not sure how the alien part figures into the appeal of Transformers. They're about as un-alien as anthropomorphic car-men are gonna get.

Mudflap: Look at this motherf- *CLONK*

NChick: No, no, I am more interested in the honest to God, they're here to exterminate us, boom and bombast, straight up invasion narrative and to do that....

(clips from Independence Day and War of the Worlds)

NChick (VO): ...we are going to compare the seminal alien invasion movie of the 1990s and the seminal alien invasion movie of the....

NChick: ...aughts....two....two-thous.... Seriously, guys, it's been, like, 5 years since that decade ended, we need to agree on a name for it.

(intercutting clips of ID4 and WOTW)

NChick (VO): Two movies that, despite the basic premise being nigh-identical, are incredibly different takes on the same experience. One bombastic and full of optimism, the other dour, gritty and full of painful honesty about human nature, one generally remembered fondly, the other less so.

NChick: But before we get into the content of the movies themselves, let's examine the.....everything that went into making these movies the way they is. Why is they the way they is? And more importantly....

(Clip of tripod rising from ground in WOTW)

NChick (VO): Why is War of the Worlds, which is in so many ways a masterpiece of modern filmmaking and by most metrics - 

NChick: Key word, 'most' - a superior film, remembered less fondly than Independence Day? I've thought us up some reasons. Let us list them.

Title Card: 1. War of the Worlds had a really hard act to follow. (called 'Independence Day')

NChick: War of the Worlds is, in many ways, a response to Independence Day.

(intercutting clips of WOTW and ID4)

NChick (VO): Part of that might be because Spielberg was thinking of remaking War of the Worlds when Independence Day came along and it became the ultimate alien invasion movie.

NChick: So there are elements that respond to Independence Day in War of the Worlds.

(pilots' briefing in ID4)

NChick (VO): This....

Steven Hiller: I'm just a little anxious to get up there and whup E.T.'s ass, that's all.

NChick (VO): Evolves into this...

(Robbie and Ray arguing at roadside as army rolls by)

Robbie: And we get BACK at them! We get- We get BACK at THEM!

(Emerging into the destroyed city in ID4)

NChick (VO): This....

Dylan: What happened, Mommy?

NChick (VO): Evolves into this...

(Rachel screaming as Ray tries to focus on driving)

Rachel: TAKE ME TO MOM!

Ray: OK, that's where we're going right now! Rachel, be-

(Casse rolls up in his RV)

NChick (VO): This....

Russell Casse: Need a lift, soldier?

NChick (VO): Evolves into this...

(desperate man ripping apart windshield with bloodied hands

NChick: And this, my favorite subtle dig....

(Ray and Rachel watching lightning storm)

Ray: Isn't this fun? It's like the fourth of July!

Rachel: No, it's not....

Ray: O say, can- (they retreat indoors after a violent strike sets off car alarms)

NChick (VO): Your movie's not scary, MY movie is scary, fuck you, Roland Emmerich.

NChick: The most obvious refutation is the tone...

(Ray's breakdown in the diner)

NChick (VO): Which makes Schindler's List look bright and cheerful.

(Intercutting clips of ID4 and WOTW) 

NChick (VO): As with all of Roland's movies, the fall of civilization brings people together. In War of the Worlds, the fall of civilization turns people into self-serving animals.

NChick: But at the same time, while refuting certain elements, War of the Worlds certainly borrows a lot from Independence Day as well.

(missiles exploding against flying saucer's shield and grenade exploding against tripod's shield)

NChick (VO): For instance, there's this....

(skyscraper being obliterated and tripod unleashing Heat Ray)

NChick (VO): This...

(Bacteria in opening of WOTW)

NChick (VO): Both rely on a contrived virus of some sort to save humanity...

NChick: And is that an ex-wife I spy? 

Mary Ann: You think?

NChick: But to me, the most egregious thing is this.

(WOTW alien appears snarling)

NChick (VO): Really, Spielberg? Really?

(side by side comparison of ID4 and WOTW aliens)

NChick (VO): COME ON!

NChick: Before I start digging on the alien design, I want to talk about the tripods.

(montage of tripod scenes)

NChick (VO): I. Fucking. Love. The tripods. God damn, there is nothing about the tripods that I don't love. There is not one second of screentime with tripod on it that I don't adore. Hell, I'd watch an entire movie of tripods! Tripods massacring people, suckin' out the blood, burning the innocent, new and innovative ways of- OH FUCK YES TRIPODS.

NChick: Seriously, the tripods are so beautiful and genius and gorgeous, I don't understand why they aren't an iconic...you know, thing, on the level of Giger's Alien or the Terminator or E.T.. The tripods. Are. Awesome. The aliens what drive them...

(alien snarling again)

NChick (VO): Less so.

NChick: Let's talk a little bit about the design of aliens in Hollywood movies. They tend to be a bit samey, don't you think?

(artwork of typical 'gray' aliens)

NChick (VO): It would seem that somehow our culture has more or less agreed on what aliens look like...

NChick: And this is based completely on physical traits that are signifiers to humans.

(side by side comparisons of WOTW alien with Independence Day alien)

NChick (VO): Big pupil-free eyes denote mysterious, big head denotes intelligence, sallow inhuman-coloured skin that is vaguely reptilian denotes foreignness...

NChick: It has to tread a line between bestial and intelligent-looking so by the 1980s we more or less figured out.

(artwork and costumes based on gray aliens)

NChick (VO): We're onto you, aliens.

NChick: So, in War of the Worlds, they start with....

(concept art of the WOTW aliens)

NChick (VO): ....this really genuinely alien body structures that echos the tripods themselves.

NChick: Which is interesting but what do they put on top of it...

(full 3D model of the WOTW alien, and close-up of the Independence Day alien)

NChick (VO): But a really familiar looking head and where have we seen this before, hmmm?!

NChick: The only appreciable difference in the design is the fact that the War of the Worlds aliens had mouths.

(aliens prowling in the basement)

NChick (VO): So they can go "rarrr!"

WOTW Alien: (snarls at its fellow)

NChick: This is not to imply that the Independence Day aliens are the most original thing ever. Again, they're pretty heavily patterned off the Roswell aliens, but then I guess Roland's like:

(pictures of Roland Emmerich, a Xenomorph and the ID4 alien)

NChick (VO, in faux-German accent): You know how the Giger took the eyes from the Alien, and it had no eyes, and that made him scary? Let's take the mouth. So instead of no eyes, they have no mouth. And it is scary.

(WOTW aliens investigating junk in the basement and ID4 alien writhing)

NChick (VO): And so the aliens in War of the Worlds end up looking nigh-freaking-identical to the ones in Independence Day.

NChick: But here's the thing. In Independence Day, they had an in-universe reason to look the way they did....

(preserved aliens in cryo tubes and front page of Roswell Daily Record reporting flying saucer capture)

NChick (VO): ...like our pre-conceived alien idea, because the whole scenario is based on conspiracy theory Americana...

NChick: And the idea that the Roswell aliens were real. We already know what those guys look like! So in War of the Worlds, there is no in-universe reason for them to look the way they do, only the real-world context of living in the shadow of Independence Day.

(footage of WOTW and District 9)

NChick (VO): In fairness the aliens also show up a little too late for them to be anything unfamiliar. Compare this to the relatively weird designs of District 9. The audience is freaking inundated with images of them so you're basically forced to accept them as characters by the end of act 1. Here they don't show up until the beginning of act 3, so they pretty much have to look like our pre-conceived idea of an alien. But after an hour of the sheer unadulterated awesome that is the tripods, they were bound to be disappointing no matter what they looked like.

NChick: I'd personally rather not have seen them.

(Footage of Independence Day and WOTW)

NChick (VO): Maybe, like, y'know, a hand at the end and that's it, but saw 'em in Independence Day, so guess we'd better do it here too.

WOTW Alien: (snarl)

Title Card: 2. 1996 > 2005

NChick: (Alanis Morissette's "Ironic" plays in the background) So, this thing going on, you know, with like, the Buzzfeeds of the world, it's all like "weren't the 90s awesome?" and people kinda shaking their heads and saying, "oh, you kids, everyone feels that way about the decade they grew up in..." and, yeah well, and that is true but here's a thing: The 90s were awesome.

(footage of the fall of the Berlin wall, Bill Clinton)

NChick (VO): I was super-young when it happened but, believe me, the fall of the Berlin wall took such a load off. Our young, hip saxophone-playing president wasn't so scandal-ridden yet, we had the best job market we'd seen in decades - (DVD cover for Reality Bites) fuck you, Reality Bites.

NChick: And we, the American film-going public: We just didn't have much to worry about.

(Footage of Independence Day, Dante's Peak)

NChick (VO): On some levels, Americans were bored and disconnected from any kind of societal anxiety and, film's a great outlet to get some quick, easy thrills and enjoy some blameless conflict. Even relatively wheezing little farts of disaster movies were big business in the 90s. (Screen cap of Dante Peak's budget and box office) I am genuinely bewildered by how much Dante's Peak made.

NChick: (The music changes to The Black Eyed Peas' "My Humps") 2005, conversely, sucked. Especially if you were an American and double especially if you weren't.

(Footage of army action and The Black Eyed Peas' video for "My Humps")

NChick (VO): The country was finally coming around to feeling really stupid about, the whole invading Iraq thing, our pop charts were dominated by pain....

Fergie: My hump, my hump, my hump

NChick (VO): ....and suffering. (Footage of Hurricane Katrina) That was the year Katrina happened. (Poster for Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith) And also this.

NChick: It was also the year of this...

(Footage of Tom Cruise jumping on Oprah's couch)

NChick: Which, is relevant, but we'll get to that later.

NChick: And no, the economy had not yet crashed, but, it was still, an uneasy time.

Fergie: Say I'm really sexy, the boys they wanna sex me...

NChick: ...2005 sucked.

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